Pierluigi Collina pauses for thought and casts his mind back 20 years to the night Manchester United scored twice in the three minutes of injury-time he added on at the Nou Camp.
Is there anything the revered Italian referee would have done differently?
'Probably the stoppage time would have been longer,' replies Collina after a few moments of careful reflection.
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Referee Pierluigi Collina helped the Bayern Munich players to their feet in the final
'Normally, only substitutions were considered for stoppage time. Today, we are telling the referees to be more accurate in calculating it.
'When a goal is scored there is normally one minute of celebration and we tell the referee to compensate for this. But I think we are talking about small, small details.'
There were only 20 seconds left on Collina's watch when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer stuck out a leg to divert Teddy Sheringham's header into the Bayern Munich net. The game was over. Collina knew it and so did the Germans.
One of the most poignant images of that night was Collina trying to physically haul the distraught Bayern players to their feet so he could blow the whistle on their Champions League dream.
It was one not entirely in keeping with the fearsome sight of Collina in his pomp; that famous bald head, bulging eyes and a menacing stare that practically dared players to step out of line.
'Answering back was one step from suicide,' Steven Gerrard wrote in his autobiography.
Again a moment of contemplation while Collina recalls his act of compassion two decades ago.
'It was a human reaction, absolutely,' he says. 'I agree with you, it's something that doesn't usually happen. I didn't realise I was doing that.
The legendary Italian said it was a 'human reaction' to help the devastated players
'If you live that moment and you see these players desperate, it is the normal reaction to try to tell them, "come on guys, you need to play a few seconds".
'They were lying on the ground because they knew the match was over. We could have finished it at
