Gangland widow Roberta Williams allegedly called her dead ex-husband's family scum and claimed to no longer have anything to do with them.
Williams, who has lived her life in the shadow of dead crime lord Carl Williams, faces a string of charges over allegations she assaulted a television producer she hired to make a reality series about her family.
The sensational claims are contained among three statements Ryan Naumenko made to police after he was allegedly bashed by Williams and her chums in a Collingwood warehouse last year.
Roberta Williams (centre) allegedly told a television producer she thought Carl Williams' family was 'scum'
Gangland killer Carl Williams (left) and Roberta Williams in happier times.
Television producer Ryan Naumenko claims Williams and her mates beat him up and threatened to kill him
Naumenko, who is a convicted crook and former jailbird himself, claims Williams expressed her contempt for Carl's family the very first time he met her.
'She mentioned that "so many people say they are related to us, they are just pathetic",' Nuamenko told police on July 11 last year.
Williams allegedly told Naumenko she and her daughter Dhakota - Carl's daughter - had 'nothing to do' with his family.
'She then continued on insulting Carl's family, calling them scum,' Naumenko said.
Carl Williams was bludgeoned to death in April 2010 by prison enforcer Matthew Johnson after reading in a newspaper that his cellmate was a police informer.
Carl had been serving 35 years for ordering the murders of three people and conspiracy to murder a fourth.
Johnson was convicted and sentenced in December 2011 to 32 years in jail.
Naumenko told police Williams had wanted to make a reality program about her life to change people's perception about her.
'We aren't what people think, get to know us before you judge us,' she told Naumenko. 'We are honest hard working people.'
On June 26 last year, Naumenko claimed he attended a dinner with Williams at a steak house in Essendon - just north of Melbourne.
It was there Naumenko first met Williams' partner 'Rob', who he believed to be the convicted killer of a teenage boy.
The three of them spoke briefly about the proposed television series before Rob hit him up for cash.
Matthew Johnson creeps up behind Carl Williams as he reads a story in the newspaper that exposed him as a jailhouse rat. Johnson killed him seconds later
Carl WIlliams was buried in a gold casket in 2010. Roberta Williams allegedly told a television producer she now hates his family
Carl, Dhakota and Roberta Williams in happier times. Dhakota was to be a star in her mum's reality television show
'The General' Matthew Johnson was placed in a unit with Carl Williams despite being known to despise police informers
'Can I borrow $30,000?', he asked Naumenko. 'I've got a guy from Sydney coming down and I want to buy something off him so we can make an earn.'
When asked what it was, Naumenko claimed Rob pointed at his eye.
'I assumed that meant ice,' he told police.
Naumenko refused and a disgusted Rob snubbed him for the remainder of the dinner.
As the days went on, a frustrated Williams allegedly demanded Naumenko find her a network to sell the reality program to.
'She was getting frustrated and wanted something to happen because of the (Lawyer X) royal commission and (Purana taskforce investigator Commander) Stuart Bateson and how she was going to kill him,'