Ghislaine Maxwell accuser 'Jane' is quizzed by defense about 'six-women orgies'

Ghislaine Maxwell's accuser 'Jane' was quizzed about the women who took part in 'orgies' she claims she was forced into while under age.  

Under the pseudonym Jane, the accuser described at least five women who participated in 'sexualized massages' as 'tall', 'thin' and said she believed they were models.   

One of them was named Sophie, and Jane agreed with the defense that she 'knew the routine' and that she would 'make out with other girls during the intercourse.'

Among the sharp exchanges between the defense and Jane Wednesday afternoon was when Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger said that Jane continued to call Epstein after she moved to Los Angeles and sent him a photo when she was 19 which said: 'You rock my world.'

Jane said that her mother had made her send it.

Menninger grew frustrated at one point after prosecutor Alison Moe objected and said, 'I know Miss Moe would like to come and do this for me but I object to that.'

Judge Alison Nathan said the objection was 'not objectionable' and moved on.

Giving evidence, Jane wore a blue sweater and black pants and black heels. She remained calm and composed and during a brief pause in the evidence she met the eyes of a male juror and smiled.

Maxwell wore a dark gray roll neck, a change from the usual beige one she has been wearing and stared intently at Jane as she gave evidence.

Her brother Kevin was in court for the first time and sat next to a Maxwell family lawyer, with Isabel Maxwell on the other side.

Kevin stared intently at Jane as well, leaning forward in his seat and taking his glasses on and off.

A second woman who participated in the orgies was named 'Eva' and asked if she 'knew the routine' as well, Jane said: 'Yes.'

A third woman was British and named 'Emmy.'

Recounting Jane's account to prosecutors during interviews with them, Menninger said: 'She was nice and cool?' Jane said: 'Yes.'

Menninger said: 'She was involved with the sexual contact?'

Jane said: 'Yes.'

Menninger said: 'She was in this group that sexualized massage with you? Jane said: 'Yes.'

A fourth woman was named 'Michelle' and Jane confirmed that she was 'involved in the sexualized contact.'

A fifth woman was older and named Kelly and Jane agreed that she 'thought she was a model.' 

The defense lawyer asked: 'You continued to travel on Mr. Epstein's dime after you 'escaped' from him in 1999, that's right?'

Jane said: 'That's not true.' 

At one point Jane became extremely emotional and had to pause her testimony after being asked questions by the prosecution. 

Prosecutor Alison Moe asked her about the money Jane got from the Jeffrey Epstein victims compensation fund. She said: 'Would you give that money back if it meant you weren't abused as a kid?'

After an objection from the defense Jane did not answer but began to cry and needed a tissue to stop her tears.

After composing herself, Moe asked what the money meant to her.

Jane said: 'I wish I had never received that money in the first place because of what happened.'

She said the money would help her to bring 'closure' to the episode for her and that she wanted to 'fix myself' and 'move on with my life'.

As she left court Jane was loudly sobbing.

Moments before, Moe had asked why the first meeting with Maxwell stuck in Jane's mind so much.

Jane said: 'It was significant because it was when that sort of fun, casual relationship with her just changed.'

During cross examination, defense lawyer Laura Menninger suggested that Jane's background as an actress may impact her testimony in court.

Menninger said that Jane had been an actress in a soap opera where she had recently celebrated 20 years on the cast.

Menninger asked if it was fair to say that soap operas involve plots with 'tangled interpersonal relationships', and Jane agreed.

Menninger said that Jane's character had been involved in a 'number of different plot lines' and proceeded to reel them off.

She said that Jane's character had been a 'protective mother', had been 'bullied', 'battled cancer' and been a 'car crash victim'.

To the last one, Jane said: 'I'd forgotten about that one'.

Jane agreed she had played a person with mental health issues, had been stalked by a serial killer and played a prostitute, which she said was 'not my favorite storyline.'

Jane's character had also 'taken down a Mexican drug cartel', Menninger said.

Menninger suggested such roles were 'melodramatic' but Jane said she preferred to just call them 'dramatic'.

Menninger asked: 'You can cry on command?'

Jane said: 'Not always. That's not how it works'.

During the redirect, Moe, the prosecutor, asked Jane: 'Do you know the difference between acting and testifying in court?'

Jane said: 'Acting on television is not real and testifying in court is real, it's the truth.'

During cross examination Menninger also raised claims by Jane that she attended the 80th birthday of Mike Wallace, a former host of CBS TV show 60 Minutes, when she was 15.

Jane said 'I think so' when Menninger said that's what she had told prosecutors during one of their meetings.

She confirmed that Epstein brought her along and said that 'I sang happy birthday' for Wallace. 

Menninger interrogated Jane about her visits to New Mexico where she claimed in her testimony she was abused by Epstein and teared up as she described one time when she desperately did not want to go into his bedroom.

Menninger said that Jane 'told the government that you don't remember any specific acts that occurred in New Mexico on these trips that you took to New Mexico'.

Jane said: 'I don't recall'.

Menninger said: 'Yesterday you testified about an incident in New Mexico that you specifically remember, two years later?'

Jane said: 'That's right'.

Menninger said: 'So today you remember it, but in 2020 you did not?'

Jane said: 'I don't recall saying any of what's written here', referring to the notes from her 2020 interview with prosecutors.

Earlier in the day, Maxwell's lawyer asked if Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump. Jane said that was 'correct.'

Menninger asked: 'He took you to Mar-a-Lago, right? When you were 14?' 

Jane said: 'Yes.'

Menninger asked: 'He took you in a dark green car?' Jane said yes. The meeting would have been in 1994, long before Trump was president. 

Menninger questioned if Jane remembered being on flights on Epstein's planes with a 'number of individuals' and she said yes, one of them being Prince Andrew. 

However, Jane claimed that she was never directed to have sex with any of Epstein's associates nor was she asked to recruit other girls.      

This came after Menninger attempted to undermine the accuser's memory by highlighting differences between the account that Jane gave in court and what she told prosecutors during meetings in 2019 and 2020. 

Menninger said that during a December 2019 interview, Jane said she could not remember a specific first time she had sex with Maxwell.

In her evidence the previous day Jane had described in vivid detail how Maxwell and Epstein led her upstairs to the bedroom of his Palm Beach mansion.

Menninger said: 'You came up with that memory in the last two years? The one you told the jury yesterday?'

Jane said: 'I don't believe I came up with a memory, no.'

Menninger said: 'You gave a memory to the jury yesterday that you didn't have in December 2019?'

Jane said: 'I don't recall.'      

Earlier in her testimony Jane said that a different discrepancy could be explained by a 'typo' in the write up of her interview with the FBI.

Menninger said that speaking to the FBI in February 2020 she said there were other women involved the first time she had sexual activity with Maxwell, another difference from her testimony.

Menninger said sarcastically: 'Another typo by the government?'

Jane said: 'Yes.'

Menninger challenged Jane on multiple aspects of her testimony including her claim that Maxwell called her house to ask her to come to Epstein's home

In her 2019 interview with the FBI, Jane said that 'Epstein or his office would call your home', to which Jane replied: 'I guess so.'

Menninger said: 'Two years later, you remember that Ghislaine used to call your home to make appointments?'

Jane replied: 'Right.'

Menninger said witheringly: 'That memory has come back to you in the last two years?'

Jane said: 'Memory is not linear.'

Menninger challenged Jane on her claim that Maxwell was there the first time she met her when she was 14 at the Interlochen arts camp in Michigan.

But Jane didn't tell her two brothers about Maxwell and didn't tell a journalist about her either, Menninger said.

Menninger said: 'You didn't say anything to the reporter about Ghislaine being there?'

Jane replied: 'Correct.'

Just before the break for morning, Menninger pressed Jane repeatedly on some of her claims about Maxwell being there for sexual episodes with Maxwell.

She said that when Jane spoke with prosecutors in December 2019, Jane told them she was 'not sure where Maxwell ever touched you during these encounters?'

Jane said: 'I don't recall.'

Menninger said You told the government that you are not sure that Maxwell ever kissed you, correct?'

Jane said: 'I don't recall.'

Menninger said: 'You told the government Ghislaine never used sex toys or vibrators on you, correct?'

Jane said: 'That's correct.'

Menninger said: 'You told the government that Ghislaine never saw you perform oral sex on Epstein, correct?'

Jane said: 'That's correct.' 

Menninger said: 'You told the government Ghislaine never saw you perform a hand job on Epstein, correct?'

Jane said: 'I don't recall.'

Menninger said that Jane told prosecutors that Maxwell was not involved in 'masturbation' with Epstein. Jane said she didn't remember.

Menninger said: 'You told the government you have no memory of Ghislaine being present when you claim Epstein engaged in any sexual contact with you, correct?

Jane said: 'I don't recall'.

As you sit here today you are not sure whether you were ever in a room alone with Ghislaine and Epstein, correct?

Jane said: 'No'.

Earlier in the day Jane confirmed that a letter of application she sent to Interlochen made no mention of Epstein or Maxwell.

The 'glowing' letter from the head of an arts school in Palm Beach said that Jane and her brothers were so talented at singing, music and acting they could be the 'rebirth of the Von Trapp family', referring to the Austrian family of singers.                  

The prosecution have entered several photos of Epstein and Maxwell into evidence, but without a time stamp or explanation behind them. 

Jane Testimony Day 1

'Jane' took the stand to testify that she was 14 years old when she first had 'sexual contact' with Jeffrey Epstein. 

In testimony Tuesday afternoon, the woman said Maxwell was in the room during the alleged abuse. Wearing a gray wrap-around sweater, a black dress and black boots, she pushed back her jet black hair and took off her mask after the judge reassured her that the sketch artists could not draw her likeness. 

She detailed to Prosecutor Alison Moe how Epstein would have her 'straddle his face', 'pinch his nipples' and described the first sexual encounter that took place in 1994 when he took her into a pool house and  'proceeded to masturbate on me.'

Jane said Epstein was talking to her about 'what I wanted to do' with her life and said that she had to choose between being an opera singer or an actress or a model. She recalled: 'He said I know everybody, I know agents, photographers, I can make things happen but you have to be ready for it.

'The conversation ended abruptly, we were in his office, and he said follow me'. 

They went outside to the pool house and Epstein sat on a couch to the right hand side. 

'He pulled his pants down, he pulled me on top of himself and he proceeded to masturbate on me. Then he just got up and went into the bathroom and cleaned himself up and acted as if nothing had happened.' she said. 

'I was frozen in fear. I had never seen a penis before let alone something like this. I was terrified and I felt gross. I felt ashamed'.

Despite this she continued spending time with Epstein and Maxwell and shortly after, she had her first sexual encounter with Maxwell. 

Epstein and Maxwell were talking when 'all of a sudden they said follow me' and led her to Epstein's bedroom in his Palm Beach home. 

'They came into the bedroom and took their clothes off. They started sort of fondling each other and kind of casually giggling,' Jane said. 'I was just standing there and he asked me to take my top off and then their hands [were] everywhere and Jeffrey proceeded to masturbate and Ghislaine was rubbing him and kissing him and fondling.'  

Jane said Maxwell was 'very casual' about the encounter and acted

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