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Pressure was mounting on the Post Office to face criminal action last night after secret recordings proved its bosses covered up the Horizon IT scandal.

They revealed that the company and Fujitsu knew their faulty computer system could alter sub-postmasters' accounts more than ten years ago, despite denying this for years.

More than 900 sub-postmasters were convicted of theft, fraud and false accounting between 1999 and 2015 following faults in the Horizon system.

And national outrage ensued after the scandal was depicted in the ITV drama Mr Bates Vs The Post Office, based on campaigner Alan Bates's bid for justice.

The recordings were made in 2013 when the Post Office hired forensic firm Second Sight to conduct an independent investigation.

Pressure was mounting on the Post Office to face criminal action last night after secret recordings proved its bosses covered up the Horizon IT scandal

Pressure was mounting on the Post Office to face criminal action last night after secret recordings proved its bosses covered up the Horizon IT scandal

In one recording, the Second Sight accountants present their evidence to Post Office company secretary Ms Lyons and chief lawyer Ms Crichton ¿ one day before then CEO Paula Vennells (pictured) met with victims campaigner Lord Arbuthnot. The accountants can be heard strongly recommending that Ms Vennells is briefed on the failings of the system. They were later fired

In one recording, the Second Sight accountants present their evidence to Post Office company secretary Ms Lyons and chief lawyer Ms Crichton – one day before then CEO Paula Vennells (pictured) met with victims campaigner Lord Arbuthnot. The accountants can be heard strongly recommending that Ms Vennells is briefed on the failings of the system. They were later fired

The first involved a call with IT specialist Simon Baker, in which it is admitted there is a possibility that sub-postmasters' accounts could be altered without their knowledge.

Mr Baker said: 'If somebody in Bracknell had a brainstorm and wanted to do something, they could just do it.' Fujitsu's head office is based in Bracknell, west London.

In another jaw-dropping moment, Mr Baker describes how he had informed Post Office executives Alwen Lyons and Susan Crichton that Fujitsu had admitted they could access sub-postmasters' accounts secretly.

In previous revelations, it is understood that chief Horizon architect Gareth Jenkins told investigators as early as 2012 that the IT system could be accessed remotely by Fujitsu at its HQ. However, the Post Office did not admit this until 2019.

In the second recording, the Second Sight accountants present their evidence to Post Office company secretary Ms Lyons and chief lawyer Ms Crichton – one day before then CEO Paula Vennells met with victims campaigner Lord Arbuthnot.

The accountants can be heard strongly recommending that Ms Vennells is briefed on the failings of the system. They were later fired.

The recordings revealed that the company and Fujitsu knew their faulty computer system could alter sub-postmasters' accounts more than ten years ago, despite denying this for years

The recordings revealed that the company and Fujitsu knew their faulty computer system could alter sub-postmasters' accounts more than ten years ago, despite denying this for years

Labour MP Liam Byrne, (pictured) chairman of the business and trade committee, said he felt 'pure rage' as he responded to what he says is the 'first evidence from 2013 that people knew there was a problem'

Labour MP Liam Byrne, (pictured) chairman of the business and trade committee, said he felt 'pure rage' as he responded to what he says is the 'first evidence from 2013 that people knew there was a problem'

Labour MP Liam Byrne, chairman of the business and trade committee, said he felt 'pure rage' as he responded to what he says is the 'first evidence from 2013 that people knew there was a problem'.

He said: 'Not only did they mislead Parliament, they were sending people to prison as late as 2015. So two years after these recordings had been made.

'This is potentially perjury, this is contempt of Parliament, it's a miscarriage of justice. I mean, there's a whole host of sins here.

'It does now beg the question as to whether the police have now got sufficient evidence to act.'

Lord Arbuthnot broke down in tears when shown the evidence. He said: 'I've been doing this for 14, 15 years now and to think that a British institution could behave like this, owned by us, is just terrible.'

Fujitsu, the Post Office and Mr Jenkins declined to comment. The public inquiry into the Horizon scandal resumes next month.

Former postmaster Alan Bates, who is portrayed by Toby Jones (pictured) in the drama, led and won the initial legal battle after himself falling victim to the faults

Former postmaster Alan Bates, who is portrayed by Toby Jones (pictured) in the drama, led and won the initial legal battle after himself falling victim to the faults

The scandal is seen as one of the UK's biggest miscarriages of justice and has gained recent national attention over recent days thanks to Mr Bates Vs The Post Office airing on ITV

The scandal is seen as one of the UK's biggest miscarriages of justice and has gained recent national attention over recent days thanks to Mr Bates Vs The Post Office airing on ITV

Timeline of a travesty that's still playing out 25 years on
1999: The Horizon IT system from Fujitsu starts being rolled out to Post Office branches, replacing traditional paper-based accounting methods. 2003: Sub-postmaster Alan Bates had his contract terminated by the Post Office after he refused to accept liability for £1,200 of losses in his branch in Llandudno, North Wales. 2004: The branch in Bridlington, East Yorkshire, run by Lee Castleton, showed a shortfall of £23,000 over a 12-week period. Mr Castleton repeatedly asked the Post Office for help, but was sacked and sued for refusing to repay the cash. He was made bankrupt after a two-year legal battle, ordered to pay more than £300,000 for the company's legal bill. 2006: Jo Hamilton, sub-postmaster at South Warnborough, Hampshire, was sacked over financial discrepancies. She re-mortgaged her house twice to fill the shortfall and was charged with theft of £36,000. She later admitted a lesser charge of false accounting to avoid jail. 2009: Computer Weekly magazine told the story of seven postmasters who had experienced unexplained losses. The Justice for Sub-postmasters Alliance (JFSA) was formed. 2010: Mr Bates, from JFSA, writes to minister Sir Ed Davey about the flawed Horizon system and urges him to intervene. His warnings were dismissed. 2012: With MPs raising concerns about convictions and the Horizon system, the Post Office launches an external review, with forensic accountants Second Sight appointed to investigate. 2013: An interim report by Second Sight reveals serious concerns and defects in the IT system. The Daily Mail reveals dozens of postmasters may have been wrongly taken to court and jailed. 2015: It is revealed the Post Office failed to properly investigate why money was missing and concluded computer failures may have been to blame. The Post Office finally stops prosecuting sub-postmasters but 700 end up being convicted. 2017: A group legal action is launched against the Post Office by 555 sub-postmasters. 2019: The High Court case ends in a £43million settlement but much of the cash was swallowed up in legal fees and victims received around £20,000 each. Post Office chief Paula Vennells awarded a CBE in New Year's honours. 2020: The Post Office agrees not to oppose 44 sub-postmasters' appeals against conviction. 2021: A public inquiry begins and is ongoing. The Court of Appeal quashes a further 39 convictions. 2022: The Government announces a new compensation scheme. 2023: Every postal worker wrongly convicted for Horizon offences will receive £600,000 compensation. 2024: Mr Bates vs The Post Office first aired on ITV1 on New Year's Day.

 

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Last month Post Office boss Nick Read was accused of giving 'misleading' evidence to MPs as they called for the firm to be stripped of its role in delivering compensation to victims of the Horizon IT scandal.

A report by the Commons business committee suggested Mr Read, who is under internal investigation over his conduct, misled MPs on 'at least two counts'.

These included the use of gagging orders and whether the Post Office had hired PR specialists to help deal with the crisis engulfing the firm.

The report branded the Post Office 'not fit for purpose' to administer payouts to postmasters.

It called on the Government to immediately step in and remove the Post Office from 'any involvement in delivering redress' amid reports of a 'toxic' culture.

Post Office boss Nick Read was last month accused of giving 'misleading' evidence to MPs

Post Office boss Nick Read was last month accused of giving 'misleading' evidence to MPs

It branded the beleaguered firm's leadership as being in 'utter disarray' amid claim and counter-claim about alleged bullying and sexism.

The Post Office runs two compensation schemes and

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