In the Michigan county Biden won by just 300 votes, fed-up residents give their ... trends now
Travel north of Detroit and Flint and just off the 'thumb' of Michigan is Saginaw, County, one of the pivot counties of the 2020 presidential race.
There President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump appear ready to duke it out once again come November.
The battleground state had one of the closest presidential elections in the country in 2020 with Biden winning Saginaw County by just over 300 votes.
Speaking to voters there this week suggests the county will see another brutal political season and neck-and-neck race this year.
The appetite for talking politics at random is low. Nearly two dozen people on a warm sunny afternoon seemed less than happy with the idea of discussing where they stand on the looming election.
Inquiries elicited teeth gritting, narrowed eyes, a number of head shaking refusals, quickened step to escape and in one case a literal hiss.
But for those who were willing to engage about 2024, there appears to be a split - and dissatisfaction with the same old candidates.
President Biden won Saginaw County, MI over Donald Trump in 2020 by just over 300 votes. Voters there signaled it could be another extremely tight race in 2024
Trump traveled to the 'pivot county' he won in 2016 but lost in 2020 during his day off from court
On Wednesday, Donald Trump returned to the county for a rally in Freeland where supporters lined up for hours to get into the outdoor venue and cheer as Trump's plane come to a halt just behind the podium.
The rowdy crowd was energized as they heard some of the ex-president's greatest hits on the campaign trail.
Trump was able to visit the state and in rare form while his criminal trial involving hush money payments was off for the day in New York.
Polling has showed that some potential Trump voters would turn against the ex-president should he be convicted. But those are not the type of voter who attends his rallies. They've already made up their minds.
Waiting in line to attend the rally were Bert and Gena Smith. It was their first Trump rally ever, but they did vote for the ex-president in both 2016 and 2020. They plan to do so again in 2024.
They have been keeping tabs on some of the hush money trial, but it won't change their minds about their support come November.
'I think it's a bunch of baloney,' said Gena Smith. 'I think it's run its course and they're just wasting our time and money.'
She suggested it is basically free advertising for the former president. Both told DailyMail.com that the ex-president
