Jill Biden: ''s phone call to Ukrainian President PROVES he's afraid of ...

Jill Biden says Donald 's now-infamous phone call to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky proves he is 'afraid' of going up against her husband, Joe, in 2020. 

The former Second Lady of the United States, 68, made the claim during an interview on MSNBC on Saturday. 

Addressing the phone call - which is now at the heart of the impeachment probe - she stated: 'When Joe and I decided to run, we knew it was going to be tough.. but we could never have imagined that it would turn into Donald asking a foreign government to get involved in our elections.

'I think, you know Donald has shown us who he is and this has been a real distraction, and I think it just proves that he's afraid to run against my husband'. 

has vehemently denied he was trying to dig for dirt on Joe and his family  during his call with Zelensky, in which he was asked the Ukrainian president to look into the firing of a former prosecutor. 

The prosecutor was allegedly fired while trying to investigate Burisma - a Ukranian gas company where Joe's son, Hunter Biden, served on the board.  

Hunter was allegedly paid up to $50,000 a month for the plum position, despite having no prior experience in the gas industry and failing to speak the local language. 

Many have seen Hunter's position on the board of the Ukrainian company as a conflict of interest, given that his father was serving as vice president at the time.

However, during her MSNBC interview on Saturday, Jill staunchly defended her son, stating:  'I know my son's character. Hunter did nothing wrong, and that's the bottom line.'

Jill Biden says Donald Trump's now-infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky proves he is 'afraid' of going up against her husband, Joe, in 2020

Jill Biden says Donald 's now-infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky proves he is 'afraid' of going up against her husband, Joe, in 2020

Jill and Joe have been married for over four decades - and she has come out as swinging in his defense on MSNBC. The couple is pictured in November

Jill and Joe have been married for over four decades - and she has come out as swinging in his defense on MSNBC. The couple is pictured in November 

Hunter was allegedly paid up to $50,000 a month for the plum position on the board of Burisma, despite having no prior experience in the gas industry and failing to speak the local language

Hunter was allegedly paid up to $50,000 a month for the plum position on the board of Burisma, despite having no prior experience in the gas industry and failing to speak the local language 

Jill also told MSNBC she was surprised by claims that Biden told staffers he was considering being a one-term president. 

Joe Biden's campaign is pushing back against journalist who reported the 77-year-old candidate has said 'on the record' he would not run for reelection should he become president.

'Lots of chatter out there on this so just want to be crystal clear: this is not a conversation our campaign is having and not something VP Biden is thinking about,' Biden's Deputy Campaign Manager Kate Bedingfield tweeted Wednesday.

She also linked to a Politico article that mentioned at least four sources who claimed the former vice president would not run for a second term if he won the White House in 2020.

A political reporter for the Associated Press defended the reporter, Ryan Lizza, who wrote the article, claiming she had also been told the same thing.

'Yeah, @RyanLizza didn't make this story up,' Meg Kinnard quipped in a tweet aimed at Bedingfield's claim. 'I can assure you. Biden told me - on the record - he would not commit to two terms when I interviewed him in October.'

'And I didn't come up with the question out of thin air,' she continued, suggesting she had other sourcing indicating Biden would only serve one term.

'If Biden is elected, he's going to be 82 years old in four years and he won't be running for reelection,' a prominent adviser to the campaign told Politico in an article published Wednesday morning.

Joe Biden's 2020 Deputy Campaign Manager Kate Bedingfield pushed back on reports claiming her boss owuldn't run for reelection in 2024 if he won the White House against Donald Trump next year

Joe Biden's 2020 Deputy Campaign Manager Kate Bedingfield pushed back on reports claiming her boss owuldn't run for reelection in 2024 if he won the White House against Donald next year

An AP journalist, however, defended the Politico report that made this claim. 'Yeah, @RyanLizza didn't make this story up. I can assure you. Biden told me - on the record - he would not commit to two terms when I interviewed him in October,' she tweeted

An AP journalist, however, defended the Politico report that made this claim. 'Yeah, @RyanLizza didn't make this story up. I can assure you. Biden told me - on the record - he would not commit to two terms when I interviewed him in October,' she tweeted

A Politico report published Wednesday claimed that sources have revealed Joe Biden, 77, would not seek reelection if he became president in 2020

A Politico report published Wednesday claimed that sources have revealed Joe Biden, 77, would not seek reelection if he became president in 2020

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This would put the future of the Democratic party in the hands of the Cabinet he chooses and his vice president, which he has said could be Senator Kamala Harris (left), who dropped out of the race this month, or Senator Elizabeth Warren (right), who is still a top 2020 contender

A handful of people who regularly talk with Biden said right now the candidate is focused on quietly indicating that he likely won't run for a second term – but they claim there is still the option of making a public pledge.

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