Katy Perry finally detailed what led to her year-long split from her fiancé Orlando Bloom back in February 2017.
While appearing on Wednesday's episode of the Call Her Daddy podcast, the 39-year-old pop star finally revealed why she and the Lord of the Rings star, 47, called it quits after 10 months of dating.
'We weren’t really in it from day one,' she recalled to host, Alex Cooper. 'He was because he had just done a huge time of celibacy and he had set intentions.'
Unlike Bloom, who had stayed abstinent for six months prior to fatefully meeting Perry at a Golden Globes afterparty, the mother-of-one said she was 'fresh out of a relationship' and not in the right mindset for something serious.
'I was like, "I can’t do this anymore. I need to swim in a different pond." But, I had to do a lot real work,' she explained.
Following Bloom's stay at a week-long retreat, called The Hoffman Experience, Perry remembers a shift between them that resulted in them amicably breaking up.
'He went there, and he wasn’t playing that cat-mouse game anymore,' she said. 'And I was like, "This is boring. I’m moving on." I was so used to this push-pull. Because once you have it. I was playing games.'
After a 'really tough year' apart from each other, she decided to go on the personal growth retreat, which 'helps participants identify negative behaviors, moods, and ways of thinking that developed unconsciously and were conditioned in childhood.'
According to their website, it costs $5,350 and includes 'lodging, all meals and snacks, more than 90 hours of professional instruction and guidance, individualized attention and a post-Process call with your teacher.'
'I finally went to Hoffman towards the end of that year that we were separated, and I got the tools,' the Roar hitmaker revealed. 'We spoke the same language.'
In addition to crediting the retreat for helping her rekindle with Bloom, she said she 'would be dead without it.'
'I would not be on this planet without that process and meditation. Because the noise got so large. When Witness came out and things started to shift, and I thought I really loved myself. I thought I really had that center, but actually that core was created from outside validation. It just helped me rewire what I think about myself, and it helped me connect my head to my heart,' she said.
As for her favorite thing about her fiancé, who popped the question on Valentine's Day in 2019, she said: 'He shows up.'
'I showed him the worst of me,' she said. 'I was like, "Here’s the next test. I’m gonna show you the craziest b**ch you’ve ever seen," and he was like, "I’m not shook." And I was like, "You’re my baby daddy. If you’re not shook by this, then we’re going the distance."'
To continue to improve their relationship, the lovebirds, who share a three-year-old daughter named Daisy, go to couple's therapy.
'We want to evolve that’s I think why we’re in our relationship is to become better humans so we can raise this beautiful human being,' she said. 'It’s been different layers. The more we do the work, the more we find the next level.'
She added: 'Sometimes we get stuck, and we’re like, "OK, let’s go in to do the work and this is going to be annoying, and I don’t want to do it. We don’t have the time. I’m tired." But we’re gonna do it. And we find the next level. That’s why we’re continuing in the relationship.'
Earlier this year, the Pirates of the Caribbean talked about how he first 'fell in love' with Katy on the podcast What Now? With Trevor Noah.
'One of the things that I fell in love with with Katy was like, I didn’t really - she hates when I say this, so I have to word it carefully - but her music was everywhere, right?' Orlando recalled on Trevor's podcast.
'When I came up, it was just on every radio station, but I wasn’t conscious of - like, it wasn’t what I was listening to,' he admitted.
'But I fell in love with Katheryn, this girl from Santa Barbara - and by the way, parents, pastors, living on food stamps. We’re not talking glamorous, Montecito,' he noted.
Katy has spoken candidly about growing up in a poor family, falling back on food banks and at times even busking when she was a teenage girl.
Meanwhile, Orlando had a boarding school upbringing in England before landing his star-making role in The Lord Of The Rings when he was two days out of drama school.
He reflected that he and Katy 'both meet each other with understanding where we came from, what we worked to do, what we had to do to get to where we got to.'
Orlando explained that the Firework crooner 'definitely demands that I evolve, right? And I feel I do the same for her. And that makes for fireworks, pardon the pun, but it also makes for a lot of fun and a lot of growth.'
He added: 'And, you know, I wouldn’t change it for anything, even when sometimes it feels like: "How do we do this?" Because we’ve got these two giant careers and lives and hers is even, you know, there’s even – it’s like a universe sometimes.'
Last year he noted that he and Katy work in 'two very different pools' of the entertainment industry, which can lead to difficulties between them.
'Her pool is not a pool that I necessarily understand, and I think my pool is not a pool that she necessarily understands,' he told Flaunt.
'Sometimes things are really, really, really, challenging. I won’t lie. We definitely battle with our emotions and creativity, [but] I think we’re both aware of how blessed we are to have uniquely connected in the way that we did at the time that we did, and there’s definitely never a dull moment,' shared Orlando.