PUBLISHED: 17:21, Wed, Dec 4, 2019 | UPDATED: 17:22, Wed, Dec 4, 2019
John McDonnell stuttered as the BBC host asked what system Labour plans to replace it with. Ms Coburn asked: “Talking about priorities, you’ve mentioned the Universal Credit that you’re going to reform but we don’t know yet how you’re going to do that and that is going to lead to more instability and more insecurity to those welfare claimants.” She went on to quote the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS): “’For goodness sake doesn’t put the system and claimants through another decade of turmoil by state afresh’ - Is that that you’re proposing?”
Speaking on BBC’s Politics Live, Mr McDonnell said: “No, of course we’re not.
“We’re doing almost exactly what the IFS are saying is the first stage which is an emergency package of reforms.”
Ms Coburn interjected: “But what about the new system?
“What’s the system that’s going to replace it?”
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John McDonnell was grilled by BBC Politics Live host Jo Coburn (Image: BBC)
John McDonnell stuttered as the BBC host asked what system Labour plans to replace (Image: BBC)
Mr McDonnell stuttered over his response.
He said: “We need an emergency package of reforms, wrapping the bedroom tax, ending the two-child limit, reducing that